In this podcast episode, we explore how together we can rebalance the needs of people and the planet in our cities to create inclusive and sustainable places for people to thrive. Dr Michelle Dickinson speaks to Katja Lietz, General Manager Urban Planning and Design, Kāinga Ora - Homes and Communities and Malcolm Smith, our Cities Leader in Australasia to uncover what rebalancing means, lessons learned, and the importance of technology and evidence for urban planning. 

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